[Fred Garvin]

PROMETHEUS (2012)
Directed by Ridley Scott.



What? No thread for this yet?

New trailer

[Count Whackula]

The trailer has me sold and can't wait to see it.

[Nallix]

I hate to say it but the trailer doesn't really get me excited. As much as I love Ridley Scott's early work, I feel like he's been on a downward slide since Gladiator (with the exception of Matchstick Men). The man is responsible for two of my all-time favorite movies plus a handful of others that are just plain fantastic.

While intriguing the trailer just didn't get me pumped up. The biggest thing for me was seeing the Space Jockey ship crashing. That was pretty cool.

[brotherhoodoflife]

Is this movie suppose be a prequel to Alien?

[LaMort]

Originally Posted by brotherhoodoflife

Is this movie suppose be a prequel to Alien?

That's what we're told.

This film looks GREAT and so does the new Cronenberg and Cosarelli films.
I think it's gonna be another great year for Horror films!!

[Nallix]

Originally Posted by brotherhoodoflife

Is this movie suppose be a prequel to Alien?

Ridley Scott keeps saying it's NOT a prequel (at least in the interviews I've seen) but anyone even looking in the general area of the screen during the trailers knows the truth. I mean, facehuggers, space jockeys, the works.

[Greg Baty]

Originally Posted by Nallix

Ridley Scott keeps saying it's NOT a prequel (at least in the interviews I've seen) but anyone even looking in the general area of the screen during the trailers knows the truth. I mean, facehuggers, space jockeys, the works.

Surely it's not a "re-imagining"?

[Scotty]

I thought I'd read that Scott copped to the prequel thing. Anyway, there were statements about exploring the Space Jockey, but it's not going to go where the others went. This is far more than a battle against aliens, which have more than had their day as central characters.

Seriously looking forward to this. Can't remember the last time I was watching the calendar for a film that was still months away. Possibly Peter Jackson's King Kong.

[mandroid51]

Looking forward to it.

[Dark Mark]

A lot of deductions can be made from watching the trailers and even viewing stills from this. It’s is a prequel but a far more interesting looking film than all of the sequels and it is definitely one of my most anticipated films this year.

[Stuart Feedback Andrews]

I can't wait. I saw some of the trailer but I stopped looking because I don't wanna ruin a single frame. I'm sold. Don't need the spoilers. Definitely one of my most anticipated releases this year.

[Ray Danger]

Can't remember the last time I was so anxious to see a film! I've heard that this will tie directly into Alien and I've also heard that it's a 'parallel universe' type thing. While I'd love to see this tie into the events of Alien in a big way, I'm mostly just hoping for a great sci-fi thriller.

[bigmac64]

I'm surprised I'm not that excited about this one. It looks great, but something doesn't feel right about it. I'm worried the film is little more than a big package on Christmas day with shiny wrapping paper that contains little more than socks and underwear.

[Mike Tank]

Has everyone here seen this?

I'm totally sold now.

"I can carry out directives that my human counterparts might find...distressing...or unethical."

Chilling.

[Stuart Feedback Andrews]

Originally Posted by Mike Tank

I'm totally sold now.

You mean....you weren't already?

[Stuart Feedback Andrews]

Originally Posted by Mike Tank

"I can carry out directives that my human counterparts might find...distressing...or unethical."

It's a great little clip. These viral video previews are fantastic little gimmicks. I saw the TED TALK one. What was the second?

[Dark Mark]

Originally Posted by Mike Tank

Has everyone here seen this?

I suspect that they actually have been making these simlucrums for some time and placing them amongst us.

[SoCalled]

Originally Posted by Dark Mark

A lot of deductions can be made from watching the trailers and even viewing stills from this. It’s is a prequel but a far more interesting looking film than all of the sequels and it is definitely one of my most anticipated films this year.

Scott in a recent interview wondered why no one had really questioned the cargo the crashed space ship had been carrying. I think we can deduce a whole bunch of stuff from there.

Hopefully this is something new rather than trying to shoehorn into the first Alien movie.

Have taken the 8th off work to ensure I get a second screening on opening weekend.

[Mike Tank]

I have a theory that this is actually a REMAKE of Alien, but the studios have gotten wise to our disdain for that trend, so they are marketing it in a very sneaky (dishonest?) way to make it seem like something new.

But...like I said...it's just a theory. I can, unfortunately, be quite the cynic about these things sometimes, an attribute that I've been trying to curb.

But, anyway, we'll find out for certain this summer what this new film entails.

[Nallix]

As much as I'm looking forward to this film, I've avoided all of the viral videos and trailers that keep getting released. I don't want to see half the film before it comes out. I want to be shocked, amazed, and surprised in the theatre.

[Ray Danger]

Launch Trailer!

[ZombieApoc]

it looks so fucking good

[bigmac64]

This sucker is starting to look more like a reboot of Alien than anything original.

I know I appear to be the killjoy on the thread, but this just looks like a lot of flashy visuals with no new story to tell. And I really hope I'm wrong about it.

[Mike Tank]

Originally Posted by bigmac64

This sucker is starting to look more like a reboot of Alien than anything original.

I called it months ago. This IS a REMAKE. But the marketing genuises behind this knows how negatively fans would respond to calling it that, seeing as how we've all made public our disdain for this trend, so they've cooked up a fancy smoke-and-mirrors campaign to hide the fact that all they've done is remade yet another classic horror film.

I hope I'm wrong...but I don't think I am. It's sickening how low their opinion is of us consumers these days. And make no mistake, that's what we are...consumers of their rebranded, rehashed products.

And Ridley Scott is along for the ride, cashing in. Well, bully for that motherfucker.

Ugh.

[Nut of the Living Dead]

Originally Posted by Mike Tank

I called it months ago. This IS a REMAKE.

"Oh dear Lord Jesus, this ain't happening, man... This can't be happening, man! This isn't happening!"

I hope you're wrong but a good few of those scenes sure do look familiar. Maybe that just goes with the territory of an ALIEN universe movie.

You know, even if it is a remake, ALIEN fans will still flock to see it.
"Ba-a-a-a! BA-A-A-A!!" ~ Nut the Sheep

[Dark Mark]

I'm still going to see it.

[Ray Danger]

Originally Posted by Dark Mark

I'm still going to see it.

Same.
As far as this being a remake, well I know enough facts about the film to know that the story is quite different. Still, the similarities are certainly there. A group gets a signal from a mysterious source, investigates, horror ensues. That's not just a remake of Alien, it's one of the most common horror themes.

[SoCalled]

New International release trailer out, looking simply awesome.

As ray_afraid above says there are horror tropes, look hard enough at any dark genre movie and you'll see similarities to other movies

[Dark Mark]

Originally Posted by SoCalled

How do you post youtube clips.

Instructions here.

[Ray Danger]

Originally Posted by SoCalled

As ray_afraid above says there are horror tropes, look hard enough at any dark genre movie and you'll see similarities to other movies

Yep. But still, here's hopin' this thing doesn't throw the similarities in our faces.

Originally Posted by SoCalled

How do you post youtube clips. New International release trailer out, looking simply awesome.

Yeah, I think it's lookin' good! I posed the link this morning, so that'll save you some effort.

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

Launch Trailer!

[Mike Tank]

I've been fairly negative...even, I will admit, downright cynical...in regards to this film. But I swear that I am, indeed, VERY curious to check this film out, in the hopes that I am proven blissfully and thrillingly wrong in my misgivings.

So I don't want anyone to think that I'm throwing out yet another naysaying argument against Prometheus by posting the link below, an interesting item about some comments Guillermo Del Toro has made saying that Ridley Scott's new film has pretty much squashed any of the already slim chances we had of seeing a GDT-helmed version of Lovecraft's "At The Mountains Of Madness".

I just thought I'd share this and get everyone's thoughts:

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news...rometheus-ties

[Ray Danger]

If Prometheus is so close to what Del Torro wanted to do with ATMOM that he's decided to give up on it, then that's cool with me. If the two films really feature the "Same premise. Scenes that would be almost identical." and if it's true that "Both movies seem to share identical set pieces and the exact same BIG REVELATION (twist) at the end." then I'm happy to take the version directed by Riddley Scott over Del Torro.

[Dark Mark]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

If Prometheus is so close to what Del Torro wanted to do with ATMOM that he's decided to give up on it, then that's cool with me. If the two films really feature the "Same premise. Scenes that would be almost identical." and if it's true that "Both movies seem to share identical set pieces and the exact same BIG REVELATION (twist) at the end." then I'm happy to take the version directed by Riddley Scott over Del Torro.

The cynic in me feels this might be his attempt at bowing out gracefully because they wouldn’t give him the money to make it alas. As an atheist and perhaps influenced by writers like Lovecraft from and early age, I don’t find it hard to see ourselves as little more than self aware bugs crawling around a soggy mud ball and either deliberately oblivious or afraid to admit our insignificance. That something bigger and smarter might have poked us with a stick or would stomp us without a second thought because we are icky is not an entirely new idea.

[The Gore-met]

Originally Posted by Dark Mark

That something bigger and smarter might have poked us with a stick or would stomp us without a second thought because we are icky is not an entirely new idea.

For sure, it was titled "The Bible".

[Rovin]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

If Prometheus is so close to what Del Torro wanted to do with ATMOM that he's decided to give up on it, then that's cool with me. If the two films really feature the "Same premise. Scenes that would be almost identical." and if it's true that "Both movies seem to share identical set pieces and the exact same BIG REVELATION (twist) at the end." then I'm happy to take the version directed by Riddley Scott over Del Torro.

NO.

[Rovin]

Originally Posted by Dark Mark

The cynic in me feels this might be his attempt at bowing out gracefully because they wouldn’t give him the money to make it alas. As an atheist and perhaps influenced by writers like Lovecraft from and early age, I don’t find it hard to see ourselves as little more than self aware bugs crawling around a soggy mud ball and either deliberately oblivious or afraid to admit our insignificance. That something bigger and smarter might have poked us with a stick or would stomp us without a second thought because we are icky is not an entirely new idea.

In Donald Tyson's novel version of The Necronomicon, "Alhazred" points out that the Elder Things from ATMOM had tied together the excretory and reproductive systems in their creation as a sort of hideous joke.

[Ray Danger]

Originally Posted by Rovin

NO.

Yes. Please note that I said I would be happy to take this film over Del Torros ATMOM, not "Jeremy Webster would be happy to take this over Del Torros ATMOM."

[Rovin]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

Yes. Please note that I said I would be happy to take this film over Del Torros ATMOM, not "Jeremy Webster would be happy to take this over Del Torros ATMOM."

You can be shitty and flippant to me all you want, but that was someone's pride, sweat, and work they spent years trying to get greenlit only to watch it go down the tubes while Scott's film that likely won't even CREDIT the Lovecraft work gets to jump the gun and squash it once and for all. I don't think it takes much looking through the filmographies to see who's by far the stronger genre enthusiast between the two. That's not saying Scott's bad as I'm just as interested in Prometheus as most everyone, but, at this point in their careers and in 2012 siding with Scott?

[Mike Tank]

In a perfect world, there would be room for both, and audiences would understand that "Mountains" is based on a book that was written over 80 years ago, and that it has been a passion project for Del Toro for some time now.

But perhaps Guillermo is correct in gracefully bowing out now. Because I'm afraid he's right. Outside of the Lovecraft faithful and the horror community in general, how many average moviegoers these days (read: tweens-young adults) do you think are familiar enough, or even at all, with the source material to be able to distinguish the fact that the elements in Scott's film are similar to, if not outright straight from, the work of Lovecraft?

NONE.

And in their ignorance, they would accuse Guillermo's film of being a rip-off of Scott's higher profile film.

A similar situation happened in the summer of 1999, when M. Night Shyamalan's The Sixth Sense blew up the box office. Less than a month later, David Koepp's Stir Of Echoes was released, a film based on a Richard Matheson book that had been published roughly 40 years prior to Shyamalan's film.

Both films featured very similar story elements, and yet Koepp's film was legitimately based on a previous work, making it the more original of the two films, if you will.

Did that stop audiences from calling Stir a carbon copy of Sense? Nope. I remember hearing several people at the screening of Echoes that I attended complaining as they walked out that it was just a rip-off of Night's film. And Echoes suffered at the box office because of this misconception, having had the bad luck of opening afterwards. Even though...dare I say it?...it was in many ways the superior film.

So I think Guillermo is smart enough to have recognized this unfortunate truth in time to put his "Mountains" to bed once and for all.

Sad, but true.

[Ray Danger]

Originally Posted by Rovin

You can be shitty and flippant to me all you want

Not being either, just stating my opinion on the topic. It had absolutely nothing to do with you. How was I shitty and flippant towards you?
Sucks that Del Torro has given up on his dream project, yes. But that's no concern of mine really. Not a fan of his films, so it doesn't hurt me personally that he won't make this one.

Originally Posted by Rovin

That's not saying Scott's bad as I'm just as interested in Prometheus as most everyone, but, at this point in their careers and in 2012 siding with Scott?

I'm not sure what you mean here. Could you please explain?

Originally Posted by Mike Tank

In a perfect world, there would be room for both, and audiences would understand that "Mountains" is based on a book that was written over 80 years ago, and that it has been a passion project for Del Toro for some time now.

Seems to me that there is more than enough room for both. Del Torro hasn't even started pre-production on ATMOM (as far as I know. Haven't followed the project though) so it would still be a few years before we get that film even if a studio green lights it today. By that time Prometheus will be in the past and I really don't think people would be screaming in the streets about how Del Torro stole his idea from Scott. And if they are that stupid, who cares? I have to echo what others have said here and elsewhere, seems like a cop out on Del Torros part.

[Rovin]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

I'm not sure what you mean here. Could you please explain?

I mean that it's been years upon years since Scott's done anything in horror/fantasy/sci-fi. Guillermo del Toro basically lives it and breathes it in every project. That doesn't mean Scott isn't a good director, but del Toro never has to "return" because he never leaves, and he brings his own unique visual sense, to boot.

[Rovin]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

Not being either, just stating my opinion on the topic. It had absolutely nothing to do with you. How was I shitty and flippant towards you?

I apologize, I haven't felt well lately and that combined with the internet's lack of inflection might have struck me at an intolerant moment. I'll do keep in mind to keep those under better control.

[Boris_K]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

Seems to me that there is more than enough room for both.

There's two Snow White films this year. Room for both in this case too.

[Scotty]

What's better, a film that profits by reinterpreting Lovecraft or one that profits by sticking to the original material? I know which one I think is more deserving of a green light.

[Ray Danger]

Originally Posted by Rovin

I apologize, I haven't felt well lately and that combined with the internet's lack of inflection might have struck me at an intolerant moment. I'll do keep in mind to keep those under better control.

No worries!

[Mike Tank]

In a brand new exclusive interview with EW.com, screenwriter Damon Lindelof talks about getting the Prometheus gig, what excited him about taking it on, and meeting Ridley Scott.

But most importantly, he answers the burning question...Is this sucker a prequel to Alien or what?!

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/1...fe-after-lost/

[Mike Tank]

By the way, I've changed my mind....I'm excited for this one.

Especially since it seems I was wrong. This isn't a remake.

It's not the first time I've been wrong, and it won't be the last. So sue me.

[Ray Danger]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

As far as this being a remake, well I know enough facts about the film to know that the story is quite different.

Originally Posted by Mike Tank

it seems I was wrong. This isn't a remake.

It's not the first time I've been wrong, and it won't be the last. So sue me.

I called it! And I will be suing!
Thanks for sharing that link!

[Mike Tank]

Originally Posted by ray_afraid

I called it! And I will be suing!
Thanks for sharing that link!

You bet!

And, yes, you did call it, and were correct.

Next time I'll listen to my fellow Morticians here before I shoot off my big mouth.

...maybe.

[Ray Danger]

New viral clip is up!

Dig it!